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Post by brewbama on Nov 16, 2020 6:34:48 GMT -6
Bry-97 is a very neutral yeast. It is fast, reliable, and clears well. I’ve been using it in 90% of my beers lately.
As my fermenter fills I simply throw the mfr recommended pitch in along with 2 tsp Fermax. I don’t hydrate or sprinkle on top. The action of filling mixes it into the wort.
Many have experienced extremely long lag times with Bry-97. But using that method for countless beers now, I get the first ‘blip’ on the Tilt at 16 +/- 2 hours like clockwork.
I’ve found the mfr rarely recommends 11 grams. It’s usually in the 13-14 gram neighborhood for my routine beers. It doesn’t sound like much but that extra 2-3 grams (~20%) seems to matter as far a lag time is concerned. The beers turn out fine with the ‘pitch a pack’ method but they don’t start as fast.
The ferment is vigorous. I always get blowoff in the jar and krauzen on the lid and a soft, easily rinsed off ‘ring around the collar’ of my 7 gal BrewBucket.
My normal beers are 5.5 gal in the high 1.04x to low 1.05x OG. I get a ’deadline’ on the Tilt in five days reliably in the 80% AA range.
I don’t spund so I like to catch the beer right when it’s done. I don’t let it sit in the fermenter for days or weeks to pick up O2. I close transfer it into a keg and cold crash under CO2 pressure.
Once I have a spot for the keg I move it to the tap. I fine with gelatin and pull a cloudy pint. The next day, the next pint is crystal clear. I do use floating dip tubes. The one keg that I don’t use a floating dip tube in takes a couple more days to clear.
Gelatin fining process
Using this method I don’t introduce air into the keg.
1. Cold crash beer
2. Use 1 tsp gelatin in 2/3 cup of water.
3. Let stand 15 min or so
4. Put it in the microwave for 15 sec.
5. Continue the 15 sec bursts until ~150*F (usually 4 bursts).
6. Pour the mixture into a clean, sanitized 2L plastic bottle.
7. Squeeze the air out and put on a carbonator cap.
8. Pressurize the bottle with a bit of CO2 until it pops back into shape (very short bursts required).
9. PULL THE KEG PRV to depressurize the keg!
10. Place a clean, sanitized jumper on the bottle
11. Invert the bottle
12. Connect the jumper to the gas in post
13. Allow nearly all the liquid to drain into the keg
14. Quickly disconnect it before it all empties into the keg.
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Post by drez on Nov 16, 2020 6:38:53 GMT -6
Many have experienced extremely long lag times with Bry-97. But using that method for countless beers now, I get the first ‘blip’ on the Tilt at 16 +/- 2 hours like clockwork. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk One day I will have to give it a try again. The times I used it I was at 72hours before noticing any movement. That long lag time drove me away. I used S-09 (co pitch of 04/05) most of the time now and I have movement in 15-16 hours. |
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Post by drez on Nov 16, 2020 6:40:09 GMT -6
When I need anything other than Amer Ale yeast I get my yeast from Label Peelers. They ship three packs of dry yeast fast and free. I don’t know how many more packs they’ll ship free — I think three is the most I’ve ordered at one time. (I bought a 500 gram brick of Bry-97 a while back that I keep vacuum sealed in the fridge that I use in most of my beers.) I get my grains from More Beer. I order three or four brews-worth at once to get the free shipping. I like to plan a few beers in advance like that alternating between lighter and darker SRM or higher and lower ABV. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk I have BRY-97 in the brewery for the first time. Not sure when I'll use it but Denny said he really liked it. I assume you like it if you bought that much of it but care to share your experience with it? Is it 1056/White Labs 01/Omega West Coast only in dry form? Denny says it is a Chico variant. I have found on the AHA where it is said to be 1272. Either way, knowing the beers you brew it will be fine for you. |
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Post by Leftympfrmde on Nov 16, 2020 10:23:25 GMT -6
Many have experienced extremely long lag times with Bry-97. But using that method for countless beers now, I get the first ‘blip’ on the Tilt at 16 +/- 2 hours like clockwork. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk One day I will have to give it a try again. The times I used it I was at 72hours before noticing any movement. That long lag time drove me away. I used S-09 (co pitch of 04/05) most of the time now and I have movement in 15-16 hours. Same results with BRY-97. Tried it 3-4 times. really long lag times, and never was wow'ed by the end result. Maybe I received packs that were poorly stored/old. |
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Post by tommymorris on Jul 25, 2021 10:52:26 GMT -6
Cheap malt (and everything else) at Label Peelers this weekend. Shipping is too steep for Alabama but you guys in the Midwest might want to take advantage.
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Post by Ken on Aug 22, 2022 7:04:00 GMT -6
My sack of Briess Select Pilsner is getting light so I went on to Label Peelers to look around. My hope was to find Swaen Malt again because the last time they were out of stock. The pilsner is out of stock until "May 20"... not sure if that wasn't updated of if that's May of 2023. The lager malt is in stock and is actually beautiful malt to brew with. $66 a sack. These malts were between $42 and maybe $49 for awhile so prices are up which is no surprise. Shipping used to run about $18 to $20 and is now $29. So $95 shipped to my door which is high but possibly STILL less than going to the one LHBS here that sells full sacks and their selection would be very limited.
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Post by tommymorris on Aug 22, 2022 7:25:58 GMT -6
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Post by Ken on Jul 12, 2023 15:11:56 GMT -6
Label Peelers is still alright with me but there is some inflation out there for sure. I needed some pilsner malt and have been in the habit of buying what's cheapest. This time Briess Synergy Pilsner was $58/sack (I feel like it was around $40 last time I bought it .. too good top pass up!) and Avangard was $62 so I went with the Avangard. Then I was appalled by the shipping. The lowest was $34 from FedEx. I feel like these sacks of grain used to be delivered to me for $15-$18 a few years ago. I ordered it anyway but damn, people!  |
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Post by gusso on Oct 21, 2023 11:22:12 GMT -6
Doesn't look like sacks of grain fall under the free shipping anymore. I put a 55# sack in my cart and it showed $60 (approximately) for shipping. |
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Post by tommymorris on Oct 21, 2023 13:13:09 GMT -6
Doesn't look like sacks of grain fall under the free shipping anymore. I put a 55# sack in my cart and it showed $60 (approximately) for shipping. I guess they don’t like loosing money anymore. That’s too bad. |
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Post by brewbama on Oct 25, 2023 7:06:10 GMT -6
I used to order whole sacks from Sunset Hydroponics and HomeBrew to get free shipping. Not sure if they do it anymore because I quit ordering whole sacks when I couldn’t get Full Pint any longer.
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Post by Ken on Feb 1, 2024 10:48:39 GMT -6
I have been using Avangard Pilsner as a base malt lately and liking the results. I saw an email from LP about a storewide 38% discount they were running. I am getting close to needing more so I looked at a sack of this stuff and it was $52. Their 2-row was $48. I bought a sack of pilsner and of course the shipping was $31. What are the rest of you finding in terms of sacks of base malt wherever it is you shop? I know that local places were selling sacks for close to $100 and that was a few years ago so this is still a decent number and I don't even have to go get it.  |
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Post by Megary on Feb 1, 2024 11:48:37 GMT -6
I've never purchased a "sack" of malt. What is that...50lbs? Storage issues aside, as a 2.5gal brewer, 50lbs of just one base grain would last me far too long. I buy 90% of the grain I use direct from Deer Creek Malthouse in PA. They are obviously a "craft" maltster, which, as far as I can tell, is just a nice way to say "small" . I know I am going to pay more for their malt than if I were to buy from the big boys on MoreBeer or some place like that. As an example, I just ordered 40.5lbs of 8 different malts (base and specialty) from DC and with the cost of shipping, it ran me $130.00. That's $3.20/pound. Expensive compared to say, Briess? Sure. Supporting the local guy only goes so far and if the malt was just so-so, I wouldn't pay the higher price. But DC's quality is A1 excellent. As a side note, I could have purchased the same grain from Keystone Homebrew and would have received free shipping, saving me ≈$20-25. While I have nothing but good things to say about KH, I have always felt that ordering direct from Deer Creek has guaranteed me the freshest malt possible. |
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Post by tommymorris on Feb 1, 2024 16:45:01 GMT -6
The last sack I bought was CMC Superior Pils for $65 from a local brewery.
From morebeer.com you can get 55 lbs of Great Western 2-row shipped for $83. Rahr is $97. Briess is $79. Viking is $87.
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Post by Leftympfrmde on Feb 1, 2024 21:14:45 GMT -6
I've never purchased a "sack" of malt. What is that...50lbs? Storage issues aside, as a 2.5gal brewer, 50lbs of just one base grain would last me far too long. I buy 90% of the grain I use direct from Deer Creek Malthouse in PA. They are obviously a "craft" maltster, which, as far as I can tell, is just a nice way to say "small" . I know I am going to pay more for their malt than if I were to buy from the big boys on MoreBeer or some place like that. As an example, I just ordered 40.5lbs of 8 different malts (base and specialty) from DC and with the cost of shipping, it ran me $130.00. That's $3.20/pound. Expensive compared to say, Briess? Sure. Supporting the local guy only goes so far and if the malt was just so-so, I wouldn't pay the higher price. But DC's quality is A1 excellent. As a side note, I could have purchased the same grain from Keystone Homebrew and would have received free shipping, saving me ≈$20-25. While I have nothing but good things to say about KH, I have always felt that ordering direct from Deer Creek has guaranteed me the freshest malt possible. Does Deer Creek have pick up at the malt house available? The more you mention it, the more I wanna try it. Next time I head to Keystone, I may pick up 10 or so lbs to a test batch. |
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