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Post by Leftympfrmde on Apr 4, 2022 13:02:10 GMT -6
Been interested the more I read up on Spunding for lagers. also, I've been in the market for a fermentation vessel that can handle pressure; not only for spunding lagers, but be able to crash, pressurize, and rack to a keg fully carbonated all in one tank. In my former commercial brewing days, while I have no desire to go pro again at the moment, I do miss the the practices; mostly the closed racking; I've cobbled some equipment using the anvil 7.5 gallon fermenters, the results were never the same.
So, pulled the trigger on a 10 gallon Torpedo fermenter, with a floating dip tube. the end goal is to ferment a batch, and rack a fully carbonated beer into a corny, free of sediment. (interested how my NEIPAs will turn out in the future).
I know one or two of use use the torpedo line. I would love to have a couple of conicals, but my brew space is a unheated/air conditioned garage, and a glycol chiller system would be awesome- it wont let itself to brewing in the winter months- so the solution was to have a pressure capable tank, that can fit in the modified deep freezer for temperature control.
It was some sticker shock, but it wasn't too bad on the wallet. time will tell.
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Post by Ken on Apr 4, 2022 13:43:02 GMT -6
HOW MUCH COST THEM!? Sorry. I have been talking with one of my not-very-fluent-in-English friends lately.  |
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Post by Leftympfrmde on Apr 4, 2022 14:29:34 GMT -6
HOW MUCH COST THEM!? Sorry. I have been talking with one of my not-very-fluent-in-English friends lately. Lol- no worries. I just got back from a trip in Spain- so, understand using broken English to communicate! The 10 gallon version was shipped to the door for $199. Add another $18 for the floating dip tube. Tack on another $22 for a spunding valve (went DIY for the valves- bought fittings, ball lock disconnects and gauges in bulk- bought material enough for 10- so $220 total. Have plans for spare kegs to secondary lambics) Net cost is $239. |
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Post by Ken on Apr 4, 2022 14:42:47 GMT -6
Got it. The things we do for beer! |
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Post by gusso on Apr 4, 2022 18:41:35 GMT -6
I use my 10 gallon Torpedo quite a bit - mostly for lagers. I use Trong's SPUNDit 2.0 for spunding.
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Post by Seven on Apr 5, 2022 8:44:52 GMT -6
I went with a used 10g corny instead of the Torpedo...think it cost around $180 shipped. Probably overpaid but I like the capacity and ability to use my ball lock fittings. I tend to spund most beers...non DH'd beers are fermeted anywhere from 15-30 psi while DH's beers usually only ferment under a few pounds of pressure.
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Post by gusso on Apr 5, 2022 13:56:19 GMT -6
I went with a used 10g corny instead of the Torpedo...think it cost around $180 shipped. Probably overpaid but I like the capacity and ability to use my ball lock fittings. I tend to spund most beers...non DH'd beers are fermeted anywhere from 15-30 psi while DH's beers usually only ferment under a few pounds of pressure. Torpedo kegs have ball lock fittings. I did look around for a long time for a 10g corny but never found one. |
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Post by Leftympfrmde on Apr 6, 2022 21:25:00 GMT -6
Did some more research on these floating dip tubes- the reviews have a love it or hate it theme. These are the morebeer brand, that look alike to the keg land types.
Found some work-around. Put a weight between the float and in intake side of the tube, and cut so it fit to have it straight down with no slack.
Time will tell. Just an FYI.
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Post by gusso on Apr 7, 2022 7:01:32 GMT -6
I use 2 different floating diptubes. Oddly, I don't have any of the most popular style (Kegland/MoreBeer style). I use Trong's and a British cask widge. They both work well - I only leave an ounce or so of beer in a spent keg. In the fermenter, they never clog and get everything I want off the trub.
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Post by brewbama on Apr 7, 2022 8:25:41 GMT -6
I have two floating dip tube designs in my serving kegs. The Clear Beer design works flawlessly for me. The Torpedo Keg design does not. I have read about adding stainless washers to weigh the system down so it doesn’t suck air but I’ve not applied the modification yet. I simply removed it and reinstalled the original dip tube.
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Post by gusso on Apr 7, 2022 9:24:31 GMT -6
For no apparent reason, I just ordered another pressure capable fermenter. I got the Fermzilla All-Rounder with the pressure kit and carry straps. It was cheap. I added a pack of yeast to get the free shipping (over $100 qualifies). Came out to $100.96. Another bonus was Williams Brewing didn't add sales tax. Dr Hans really likes the All-Rounder!
It comes with one of those familiar Torpepo/Kegland floating diptubes. I'll try that with one of Trong's filters (he sent me a couple to try out) attached.
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Post by Leftympfrmde on Apr 8, 2022 13:26:07 GMT -6
Got the delivery today.
I unboxed it, and kind of marveled at the size and weight of this thing; in a former life, I worked a night job at a large chain liquor store, and essentially it's just like a 1/2 BBL keg scaled down to 10 gallons.
Did a dry run, and the good thing is, its light enough to fit on my mark II keg washer for, what I call its "commission cleaning"- to clean all the gunk from the manufacturing process.
Only down side, the keg posts like a 18mm socket or wrench. Dont have a wrench, and the only socket I have is the wrong sized drive. Garage full of tools, and dont have what I need- off to the hardware store.
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Post by Ken on Apr 8, 2022 14:25:47 GMT -6
Only down side, the keg posts like a 18mm socket or wrench. Dont have a wrench, and the only socket I have is the wrong sized drive. Garage full of tools, and dont have what I need- off to the hardware store. I can't tell you how much that frosts my flakes. Now you'll have to get a new tool for just that one thing. They couldn't make the size something more common?  |
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Post by Leftympfrmde on Apr 8, 2022 16:32:38 GMT -6
Only down side, the keg posts like a 18mm socket or wrench. Dont have a wrench, and the only socket I have is the wrong sized drive. Garage full of tools, and dont have what I need- off to the hardware store. I can't tell you how much that frosts my flakes. Now you'll have to get a new tool for just that one thing. They couldn't make the size something more common? It's a PITA, but a cheap solution. I once modified a socket with a dremel for pin lock kegs- had this idea of having two dedicated pin lock kegs for a beer engine. Fast forward a couple years and let it go. |
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Post by gusso on Apr 8, 2022 17:16:20 GMT -6
Got the delivery today. I unboxed it, and kind of marveled at the size and weight of this thing; in a former life, I worked a night job at a large chain liquor store, and essentially it's just like a 1/2 BBL keg scaled down to 10 gallons. Did a dry run, and the good thing is, its light enough to fit on my mark II keg washer for, what I call its "commission cleaning"- to clean all the gunk from the manufacturing process. Only down side, the keg posts like a 18mm socket or wrench. Dont have a wrench, and the only socket I have is the wrong sized drive. Garage full of tools, and dont have what I need- off to the hardware store. Yeah, same thing happened to me. I ordered a socket from Amazon. 11/16 (deep). |
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