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Post by drez on Jun 10, 2020 5:52:06 GMT -6
What is the most grain you can use with the Anvil system?
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Post by jkor on Jun 10, 2020 6:08:31 GMT -6
Zymot is going electric big time!
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Post by neddles on Jun 10, 2020 6:38:21 GMT -6
I have been grinding over every combination if Blichmann Boil Coil products so I can use their new Brewcommander. Looks like the tower of power is obsolete. The Brewcommander is pretty slick. New kettle + Brewcommander. Existing kettle + new boil coil + brew commander. The Anvil all in one feels like i am cheating, it is too easy. A kettle and BIAB lets me feel like i am really honestly brewing. But the Anvil will let me do everything a 10G BIAB kettle set up can do. I do not know if a 15G BIAB gets me much more. I can brew more than 16# grain bill in 15G BIAB. But even that, I can get higher gravity wort out of a 10G system if I want. When you're talking about 10 vs. 15 gallon BIAB systems, is the 10g/15g the output or mash tun capacity or kettle capacity?
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Post by jimdkc on Jun 10, 2020 7:47:00 GMT -6
For the Anvil Foundry systems, the size refers to kettle capacity.
The "10.5 Gallon" system brews 4-5 Gallon batches. Rated grain capacity is 16 pounds. (Can go down to 2 Gallon batches with optional adapter.)
The "6.5 Gallon" system brews 2.5-3 Gallon batches. Rated grain capacity is 8 pounds.
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Post by drez on Jun 10, 2020 7:47:49 GMT -6
For the Anvil Foundry systems, the size refers to kettle capacity. The "10.5 Gallon" system brews 4-5 Gallon batches. Rated grain capacity is 16 pounds. (Can go down to 2 Gallon batches with optional adapter.) The "6.5 Gallon" system brews 2.5-3 Gallon batches. Rated grain capacity is 8 pounds. Do you know the efficiency of the system?
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Post by zymot on Jun 10, 2020 7:52:10 GMT -6
What is the most grain you can use with the Anvil system? 16.5 lbs When you're talking about 10 vs. 15 gallon BIAB systems, is the 10g/15g the output or mash tun capacity or kettle capacity? When I say 10G or 15G it is the size of the kettle you use to mash and boil. All I brew is 5 gallon batches. A 10 gallon kettle you maxes out to around 17 pounds of grain for a conventional BIAB brew session. You can do things to get a higher gravity beer. The Anvil Foundry will hold 16.5 lbs of grain. I can employ some tricks to get higher OG than a I would fro a conventional 16.5 lb recipe. The Anvil system is perfect for me. Does most everything I want. It is the logical choice. But damn Daniel, a BIAB rig is pretty cool looking and gives you buttons to push and hoses to set up and all that.
In the end, I am pretty sure simplicity, ease of use and economics will win out and I will go with the Anvil.
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Post by zymot on Jun 10, 2020 7:55:00 GMT -6
Do you know the efficiency of the system? Should be same as a BIAG efficiency. Which John Palmer claims is better than batch sparge efficiency.
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Post by jimdkc on Jun 10, 2020 7:55:05 GMT -6
I've heard some complaints of low efficiency (mid 60's), but most people seem to be able to address that by various means (tighter crush, sparging, etc.) to get it up into the upper 70's.
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Post by zymot on Jun 10, 2020 8:08:19 GMT -6
How is the Foundry different than BIAB? Only difference I can see is with a bag, the entire bag/basket is a perforated strainer where the Foundry only the bottom and some of the sides are perforated. Does that make a difference?
You can fortify your wort with some DME.
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Post by drez on Jun 10, 2020 8:17:35 GMT -6
I get 70-74% BIAB with my system. My assumption was these systems would be the same but I was curious. As mentioned, crush can help BIAB efficiency as well.
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Post by jimdkc on Jun 10, 2020 8:25:46 GMT -6
I've heard of a lot of people using a bag in the Foundry when mashing to allow a finer crush.
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Post by Seven on Jun 10, 2020 10:53:51 GMT -6
I get 70-74% BIAB with my system. My assumption was these systems would be the same but I was curious. As mentioned, crush can help BIAB efficiency as well. Same here with a double crush, 2nd milling slightly tighter than "standard" on the Barley Crusher. I do squeeze the bag but that only gives more volume, not higher gravity unless I boiled longer.
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Post by Leftympfrmde on Jun 10, 2020 17:28:27 GMT -6
Question to electric brewers out there. How do you deal with a IM chiller and the heating element? An electric boil kettle has to have the heating element in direct contact with the wort. When you use a water heater element, is sticks out into the wort, a Blichmann boil coil has a coil concentric with the kettle. My concern is the IM banging into the heating element. Went with a removable assembly. I have a really nice IC chilller, and didn't want to take it out of the brew house. I boil it on the stove top in the kitchen while brewing. remove the element, and put in the IC. also, wanted the elements to be able to move for easier cleaning (diluted white vinagar works great) and, if needed, replacement of the element. Im sure you can build a 'stand' around the element so the chiller isn't sitting on it.
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Post by zymot on Jun 10, 2020 21:49:14 GMT -6
Same here with a double crush, 2nd milling slightly tighter than "standard" on the Barley Crusher. I do squeeze the bag but that only gives more volume, not higher gravity unless I boiled longer. I have one BIAB session under my belt. I chose not to squeeze the bag. After I collected my brewing wort, I pulled teh bag aside and squeexed it to see how much wort I was missing out on. It was virtually nothing left in the bag. I will probably not bother to squeeze any more.
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Post by drez on Jun 11, 2020 6:43:55 GMT -6
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