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Post by davemcg on Apr 29, 2020 13:43:24 GMT -6
I grabbed some Simcoe at the LHBS the other day. I'm going through things to put a West Coast IPA together and I noticed the A.A. of them is 24.5%. I know they are constantly breeding for high Alpha, but that sounds off the charts. I haven't brewwed as much as I like recently, is this common? I'm used to 12%.
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Post by poptop on Apr 29, 2020 13:57:37 GMT -6
That's pretty laaaaaaaarge. Is out out of the question, can't say. Just went to my inventory sheet to see the AA on mine and I'm out. Note to self, "buy some Simcoe."
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Post by Ken on Apr 29, 2020 16:16:04 GMT -6
Meanwhile I get Hallertau, Saaz or something like Tettnanger or Hersbrucker and they're 2.8%, 3.2%... I bought something not long ago and they were 1.9%. WTF.
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Post by zymot on Apr 29, 2020 17:00:20 GMT -6
Meanwhile I get Hallertau, Saaz or something like Tettnanger or Hersbrucker and they're 2.8%, 3.2%... I bought something not long ago and they were 1.9%. WTF. OK. Hold on.
Let me take this one in.
For just a moment.
*squints at monitor*
Did I just read Ken complaining about something that is not bitter enough?
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Post by Ken on Apr 29, 2020 17:38:58 GMT -6
Meanwhile I get Hallertau, Saaz or something like Tettnanger or Hersbrucker and they're 2.8%, 3.2%... I bought something not long ago and they were 1.9%. WTF. OK. Hold on.
Let me take this one in.
For just a moment.
*squints at monitor*
Did I just read Ken complaining about something that is not bitter enough?
No. You read that Ken would like to add a bittering addition that is not 4 ounces of hops!  |
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Post by drez on Apr 29, 2020 19:40:36 GMT -6
Are the cryo Simcoe hops? Those are the only ones I have seen that high.
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Post by davemcg on Apr 29, 2020 20:31:48 GMT -6
Are the cryo Simcoe hops? Those are the only ones I have seen that high. Looking at the package, yes they are. Is that a new thing? |
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Post by drez on Apr 29, 2020 20:45:02 GMT -6
Are the cryo Simcoe hops? Those are the only ones I have seen that high. Looking at the package, yes they are. Is that a new thing? Yes it is. I would use them late like whirlpool or dryhop. They are intense aroma. The do some crazy freezing technique that separates a lot of the vegital mater. It used to be cryp powder but that was a major pita and now they pelletize them. |
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Post by davemcg on Apr 29, 2020 22:24:07 GMT -6
Excellent! I was hesitant to use them to bitter with because I tend to chuck the whole package in instead of measuring them out. I was going to do a flameout addition anyways, so that's where they'll go. I have other more moderate stuff to bitter with.
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Post by jkor on Apr 30, 2020 6:27:06 GMT -6
OK. Hold on.
Let me take this one in.
For just a moment.
*squints at monitor*
Did I just read Ken complaining about something that is not bitter enough?
No. You read that Ken would like to add a bittering addition that is not 4 ounces of hops! I've always wanted to do an A-B test bittering with 4 oz of a 3% AA vs 1oz of a 12% (or 1/2 oz of a 24%, in this case!) to see if there was some noticeable difference in using significantly more/less hops in the bittering addition. |
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Post by drez on Apr 30, 2020 6:37:33 GMT -6
No. You read that Ken would like to add a bittering addition that is not 4 ounces of hops! I've always wanted to do an A-B test bittering with 4 oz of a 3% AA vs 1oz of a 12% (or 1/2 oz of a 24%, in this case!) to see if there was some noticeable difference in using significantly more/less hops in the bittering addition. I am going to guess at our scale there will be minimal noticeable difference. At a larger scale you would benefit from less losses. |
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Post by denny on Apr 30, 2020 14:22:32 GMT -6
No. You read that Ken would like to add a bittering addition that is not 4 ounces of hops! I've always wanted to do an A-B test bittering with 4 oz of a 3% AA vs 1oz of a 12% (or 1/2 oz of a 24%, in this case!) to see if there was some noticeable difference in using significantly more/less hops in the bittering addition. Cryo hops have been frozen with liquid nitrogen, then the lupulin is separated from the bract. The lupulin becomes cryo hops, the bract becomes American nobles. Don't waste them on bittering. Use either in whirlpool or dry hopping. |
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Post by denny on Apr 30, 2020 14:23:51 GMT -6
OK. Hold on.
Let me take this one in.
For just a moment.
*squints at monitor*
Did I just read Ken complaining about something that is not bitter enough?
No. You read that Ken would like to add a bittering addition that is not 4 ounces of hops! With 4 oz., at least a portion of your "bitterness" will come from the polyphenols in the hops. |
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