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Post by Ken on Aug 10, 2023 15:51:38 GMT -6
Ken, BB - These measured amounts are based on certain volumes of water, yes? (x) tsp / (y) gallons of mash water?? I suppose they are. The issue is that I arrived at these numbers years ago based on the amount of water I use and the dosing came from AHA, the LO guys or somewhere else. I heat 5 gallons of strike water and I heat 2.5 gallons of sparge water. ¼ tsp of BTB into the strike water and ½ tsp into the boil is what I have in my notes.
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Post by brewbama on Aug 10, 2023 19:18:50 GMT -6
I base my 1/2 tsp off a note I received from Joe years ago. I use 7.5 gal water full volume mash no sparge.
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Post by Ken on Aug 11, 2023 8:07:23 GMT -6
I base my 1/2 tsp off a note I received from Joe years ago. I use 7.5 gal water full volume mash no sparge. So we both use the same amount of water per 5 gallon batch but I split mine into 5 + 2.5. Do you think that BTB does anything to help you with clarity? I know that's not really the point but it would be a nice benefit. I could absolutely try the ½ tsp in the strike water trick with zero BTB added to the boil especially if you got that information from Joe.
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Post by brewbama on Aug 11, 2023 11:29:36 GMT -6
I absolutely think it aids in clarity.
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Post by Megary on Aug 11, 2023 12:15:13 GMT -6
Not sure this is answerable, but... If I do nothing throughout my process that would be even remotely considered "LO" brewing, would adding a bit of Brewtan be beneficial in any way? I suppose it can't hurt to try. I don't O2 scavenge, underlet, pressure ferment, cold crash, pressure transfer etc. etc. I find my process very simple and very enjoyable, but adding Brewtan seems like it would be a natural fit for me. No effort whatsoever.
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Post by Ken on Aug 11, 2023 12:15:32 GMT -6
I absolutely think it aids in clarity. Okay then. This Sunday I'll add ½ tsp to my strike water as I'm underletting and bypass the kettle addition to see if I detect any difference. The last batch I made I did it the original way so I'll have two batches in a row to compare against .. one is my homage to Anchor Steam and the second one will be this "American Amber". Thanks BB.
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Post by Ken on Aug 11, 2023 12:20:51 GMT -6
Not sure this is answerable, but... If I do nothing throughout my process that would be even remotely considered "LO" brewing, would adding a bit of Brewtan be beneficial in any way? I suppose it can't hurt to try. I don't O2 scavenge, underlet, pressure ferment, cold crash, pressure transfer etc. etc. I find my process very simple and very enjoyable, but adding Brewtan seems like it would be a natural fit for me. No effort whatsoever. I can only say that I feel it made my beer noticeably smoother. Is that smoothness a result of the BTB "blocking the effects of metal" in my system? Is it because my beer is less-oxidized when I use BTB? One reason I even picked this back up is because I had a couple beers that seemed mildly harsh or coarse. I noodled with that a little bit and wondered if it was my tastebuds or what. Then I remembered how smooth my BTB beers came out and thought it would be good to try it again. I don't think using BTB on a "pilot batch" would hurt in any way so I feel like it would be a good experiment. Take good notes on how you used it and then how the beer tasted so you can form an opinion on whether it's worth continuing.
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Post by brewbama on Aug 11, 2023 16:21:49 GMT -6
I don’t do LO really, either. I used to try more than I do now. I do these things because it’s easier or saves money.
I do collect my water the night before brewday so it’s too easy to toss in some sugar and yeast. I underlet the mash so I don’t have to lift 7.5 gal (~60 lbs) of hot water. I have a pump so why not use it. I add BtB because it creates clear beer, use fermentation CO2 to push sanitizer from a keg because it saves on CO2, and close transfer because I don’t want to disturb the fermenter (clearer beer).
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Post by Ken on Aug 12, 2023 7:57:21 GMT -6
I don’t do LO really, either. I used to try more than I do now. I do these things because it’s easier or saves money. I do collect my water the night before brewday so it’s too easy to toss in some sugar and yeast. I underlet the mash so I don’t have to lift 7.5 gal (~60 lbs) of hot water. I have a pump so why not use it. I add BtB because it creates clear beer, use fermentation CO2 to push sanitizer from a keg because it saves on CO2, and close transfer because I don’t want to disturb the fermenter (clearer beer). Very much the same here. I tried to get into LO but what I was doing would never be considered LO by the LO guys. I do a lot of what you describe and I also have a mash cap. Purging the keg with CO2 from fermentation and then doing a closed transfer is easy and I feel like it really bypasses some things where more O2 would have been picked up so I like that part. I will update this thread when I sample these latest beers and I'll pay attention to the clarity and the impact on the overall beer.
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Post by denny on Aug 14, 2023 14:21:30 GMT -6
When do you guys typically add BtB? Mash, boil,? ¼ tsp into the mash or strike water and then ½ tsp mixed with water and added to the boil with 15 minutes left. Similar, but 1/2 and 1/2
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Post by joed on Sept 7, 2023 9:40:09 GMT -6
When do you guys typically add BtB? Mash, boil,? I add to mash water just before mashing in and in boil, used to do the boil addition at 15, but have since changed to adding it at 7 mins remaining, with whirlfloc going in with 3 remaining. As for amounts, I use the gram/gallon recommendation right from the company that brought BTB to us, I think the guy's name was Joe. The range is 0.08-0.26 grams per gallon, and I target the middle of the range at 0.18 grams per gallon. During the boil, I base the addition on what my boil volume is.
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Post by denny on Sept 8, 2023 12:56:27 GMT -6
When do you guys typically add BtB? Mash, boil,? I add to mash water just before mashing in and in boil, used to do the boil addition at 15, but have since changed to adding it at 7 mins remaining, with whirlfloc going in with 3 remaining. As for amounts, I use the gram/gallon recommendation right from the company that brought BTB to us, I think the guy's name was Joe. The range is 0.08-0.26 grams per gallon, and I target the middle of the range at 0.18 grams per gallon. During the boil, I base the addition on what my boil volume is. Joe Formanek at Ajinimoto
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