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Post by tommymorris on Dec 17, 2022 19:13:45 GMT -6
My Country Helles is in the fermenter.
My recipe was
78% Best Pils
11% Swaen Vienna
11% Best Munich
17 IBU Edelweiss 2019 at 60
8.5 IBU Edelweiss 2019 at 15
34/70 Slurry
My water was
75 CA, 6 Mg, 14 Na, 81 SO4, 72 Cl
My OG was 1052. I forgot to heat my sparge water. I think that’s why I missed the SG by a point.
I mention the 2019 Edelweiss because when I bought it the description said he was missing one ingredient and had to substitute. So, my Edelweiss might be slightly different.
PS. BT = BrewBama Tommy
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Post by Ken on Dec 18, 2022 8:38:32 GMT -6
Funny you mention the Edelweiss because I remember reading something like that on the Hop Heaven FB page. Something like... "This year's Edelweiss mix is slightly different from last year so try them in your favorite recipe and let us know how we did!". I just went and checked my Edelweiss and sure enough they're 2019. I like them. Also, I almost always use Vienna or Munich in a Helles but I don't know that I have ever used both. The recipe looks good. I'm going to guess that my SO4 and Cl numbers are lower and probably favor chloride more than sulfate.
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Post by tommymorris on Dec 18, 2022 10:04:52 GMT -6
Funny you mention the Edelweiss because I remember reading something like that on the Hop Heaven FB page. Something like... "This year's Edelweiss mix is slightly different from last year so try them in your favorite recipe and let us know how we did!". I just went and checked my Edelweiss and sure enough they're 2019. I like them. Also, I almost always use Vienna or Munich in a Helles but I don't know that I have ever used both. The recipe looks good. I'm going to guess that my SO4 and Cl numbers are lower and probably favor chloride more than sulfate. I just made a German Pils with the 2019 Edelweiss. It is amazing. Dwain built the water based on recommendation from Kai’s website for Country Helles. Country Helles is closer to Dort. I think that accounts for the extra SO4. |
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Post by brewbama on Dec 18, 2022 15:46:56 GMT -6
I based the recipe off pg 5 of the (v3) LoDo paper. www.germanbrewing.net/docs/On_Brewing_Bavarian_Helles_v3.pdfTommy didn’t have Cara so I subbed 5% more Munich for it. I don’t use acid malt so I just added 1% more each of Vienna and Munich. Since “Helles Export is generally brewed slightly higher in extract and with lower percentages of specialty malts” and “Country Helles is a more robust interpretation of Helles”, I figured ≈ ‘Country Helles Export’. It says “try tweaking the recipe to your tastes” so I did. 😂 I got 1/2 lb of the ‘22 Edelweiss and I am using Sugar Creek malts so we’ll see if there’s a difference during the taste test. I’ll brew some more Lagers in ‘23 to use the rest of the hops. He also sent me some Cashmere which I have never used so I am planning an English IPA to try them. My Altbier keg is getting light so I may get another brew in this yr after all. I forgot my boys were here. 😁 Here’s the water profile based on Kai Troester’s Pilsner profile. braukaiser.com/wiki/index.php/Various_water_recipes he has a Helles water recipe but I like the Ca level and balance of this one:  Mine looks like this (I bumped up the CaCl a bit for more balance):  Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
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Post by brewbama on Dec 23, 2022 18:07:59 GMT -6
I brewed my Helles today. It’s tucked away in the fermenter fridge now.
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Post by tommymorris on Dec 23, 2022 19:46:08 GMT -6
I brewed my Helles today. It’s tucked away in the fermenter fridge now. Awesome! Good thing you have an indoor brewery. |
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Post by brewbama on Dec 23, 2022 21:35:02 GMT -6
That’s no joke. I woke up to 3°F outside air temp this AM.
I wouldn’t have left the house today had I not needed to run to the pharmacy real quick. It was brutal.
My cat, who is generally an outside cat, has been going to the door but when I open it he sniffs a little then turns around and gets on the couch. He went out once and was back inside in about 5 minutes. He’s snoozing by the fireplace now. 😂
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Post by Ken on Dec 24, 2022 8:57:34 GMT -6
Congrats on the helles and FOR SURE on the weather. At least in Chicago we're used to this and know it's coming. I have family in Georgia and I know it's a complete shock to the system for you guys because it's just not normal. I went to the store yesterday afternoon and the roads were snowy/icy but manageable. I shopped and came out of the store with my cart and a YUUUUUGE gust of wind hit me from the side and it was a real WHOA NELLIE! moment. I'm pretty sure there were people sitting in cars in the parking lot applauding and looking at me like entertainment.  Nine of my 10 kegs still have beer in them, thank Jeebus. I would not attempt to brew in this weather. Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays Beerheads! |
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Post by tommymorris on Dec 24, 2022 13:30:24 GMT -6
Some friends and I ran 17 miles today. We ran one way so we could have the wind at our backs all the time. It was great and we were remarking how warm we were and how sweaty we all got. There was one 1/3 mile stretch we had to run into the wind. That bit was painful. It was 9F when we started the run. He we are at the end.  |
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Post by brewbama on Dec 24, 2022 20:49:37 GMT -6
Oh hell no. I was in the Army. We used to run 10 miles before breakfast. Ain’t no way I would voluntarily run in this wx.
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Post by Ken on Dec 25, 2022 17:48:30 GMT -6
You crazy Tommy. |
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Post by joed on Jan 20, 2023 11:12:05 GMT -6
Have used the Edelweiss hops from Hop Heaven in the past, really liked them. Now I make my own blend every year when I stock up on the new crop year hops from YVH, I will take some of the prior year hops and make a "lager blend". First year I did this, I made a blend based on what I figured Edelweiss was based on the hops sold on the eBay site, so it was Mt. Hood, Liberty, Saaz, Mitt, Tettnang and I want to say Loral. Last year I made a simple blend of Mitt, Saphir and Liberty.
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Post by Ken on Jan 20, 2023 11:20:50 GMT -6
Have used the Edelweiss hops from Hop Heaven in the past, really liked them. Now I make my own blend every year when I stock up on the new crop year hops from YVH, I will take some of the prior year hops and make a "lager blend". First year I did this, I made a blend based on what I figured Edelweiss was based on the hops sold on the eBay site, so it was Mt. Hood, Liberty, Saaz, Mitt, Tettnang and I want to say Loral. Last year I made a simple blend of Mitt, Saphir and Liberty. Did you bitter with something "known" so you knew the exact AA% and then add your blend later in the boil because the combined AA% of the late hops wouldn't matter? |
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Post by tommymorris on Jan 20, 2023 13:40:39 GMT -6
You can average the AA%’s if you know how much of each you use and blend them well.
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Post by brewbama on Jan 22, 2023 12:22:46 GMT -6
Well, my Helles is clear and after a few pints…. I dunno. Not *bad* but I’m hoping it matures into something better.
We need to get together and share a pint or two.
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Nine of my 10 kegs still have beer in them, thank Jeebus. I would not attempt to brew in this weather. Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays Beerheads! 