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Post by tommymorris on May 26, 2022 18:13:29 GMT -6
I am brewing an American Lager this weekend w/ 90:10 Pils to Flaked maize, 15 IBU.
Question: would a hop stand with Edelweiss be a bad idea? I made a similar beer with 12 IBU and a 15 minute addition. I want more hop flavor and a bit more bitterness. I am thinking 15 IBU from a 60 minute addition and then a hop stand at about 170F.
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Post by Megary on May 27, 2022 6:35:38 GMT -6
Sounds like a great idea to me. Any way to add some interest to an American lager is ok in my book!
How long will the hop-stand be?
What quantity of hops?
Will you hold tight at 170° for the duration?
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Post by tommymorris on May 27, 2022 6:39:08 GMT -6
Sounds like a great idea to me. Any way to add some interest to an American lager is ok in my book! How long will the hop-stand be? What quantity of hops? Will you hold tight at 170° for the duration? I was thinking 0.5 oz. of Edelweiss in a 3 gallon batch. The hop stand would be 20 minutes and would start at 170F. I don’t have a good way to apply heat so the temperature would probably drop 10F over the 20 minutes. |
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Post by Ken on May 27, 2022 8:40:38 GMT -6
I think the term American Lager has been loosened up a little bit. Many, many "craft breweries" are making American Lagers these days and I think I had one in Boulder earlier this month (Avery?). Some are using non-traditional hops like Citra or hopping them up more than you might think you would get in this style. In another thread we discussed how we sometimes make a beer that defies definition so why put yourself in a box? Make the beer, add whatever you want and call it a gold lager and wash your hands. If the hopstand creates more hop punch than you expect, call it a pilsner or whatever. I had a beer on tap and the label was for American Lager but the beer actually had more hop punch to it than that. I bud came over and tapped a glass of it and said "American Lager? This seems more like a German Pilsner" so I switched the label to PILSNER and said "There. Better?" and he just laughed. A half ounce of Edelweiss will be nice and remember that if the beer lagers for a bit, those late hops will fade. Cheers Beerheads.
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Post by cliffs on May 27, 2022 12:26:51 GMT -6
edelweiss is such a soft and pleasant hop blend, I imagine it would be delightful in a light lager as a hop stand
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Post by tommymorris on May 27, 2022 17:02:28 GMT -6
Thanks guys.
Regarding what to call it, I already have a name, Standard Template Lager (STL). It’s for my son. I made the first batch for him for his 21st birthday. He wants more. He is a software engineer and STL is a programming term from
C++. I read Ken’s Gold Lager catch all name a day or two ago and I thought I needed a catch all for light lagers. STL popped into my head at that moment. The hops and grains might change but for the most part the beers will likely stay in a similar gravity range, use mostly base malt with an adjunct, and have similar IBU, in other words, they will follow a standard template.
Regarding blurring the style lines. I have no problem there. IMHO, the brewer gets to call his beer whatever he wants.
I just wanted to make sure no one thought this hop stand would taste bad.
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Post by tommymorris on May 29, 2022 14:17:09 GMT -6
I decided to drop the OG of this one down to 1038 and make it a light lager. I still did the hop stand with 0.5 oz. of Edelweiss. 🤞
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Post by cliffs on May 31, 2022 8:50:00 GMT -6
Thanks guys. Regarding what to call it, I already have a name, Standard Template Lager (STL). It’s for my son. I made the first batch for him for his 21st birthday. He wants more. He is a software engineer and STL is a programming term from C++. I read Ken’s Gold Lager catch all name a day or two ago and I thought I needed a catch all for light lagers. STL popped into my head at that moment. The hops and grains might change but for the most part the beers will likely stay in a similar gravity range, use mostly base malt with an adjunct, and have similar IBU, in other words, they will follow a standard template. Regarding blurring the style lines. I have problem there. IMHO, the brewer gets to call his beer whatever he wants. I just wanted to make sure no one thought this hop stand would taste bad. Bingo. I make quite a bit of lite lager, and I like mine with some sulfates and a little more hop bitterness than is to style. |
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Post by Leftympfrmde on Jun 5, 2022 15:13:07 GMT -6
I see no issue with this.
a few years back, for the brew club, I've dozed Bud Heavy 16oz aluminum bottles with .2 oz of a particular hop, 48 hours, to showcase the flavors. by and large, galaxy was a clear winner.
I've made a 4.8% American CAP with a dose of galaxy in the dry hop. it was marvelous.
light lager lends itself to a hop stand or dry hop to carry flavor.
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Post by tommymorris on Jun 5, 2022 19:22:24 GMT -6
I kegged this beer 2 days ago. It was pretty good then. Hopefully it doesn’t fade.
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Post by tommymorris on Jun 13, 2022 17:13:21 GMT -6
This beer is really good. S-23 clears very fast. I’m trying to let it sit another week, but as of now it has pretty nice hop flavor.
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Post by Ken on Jun 14, 2022 7:12:28 GMT -6
This beer is really good. S-23 clears very fast. I’m trying to let it sit another week, but as of now it has pretty nice hop flavor. Can you pour me one?  |
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