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Post by Seven on Nov 18, 2020 13:19:30 GMT -6
I bought an Anvil Foundry a while back and eventually want to convert it to 240. I've gotten 1 quote to run 240 into the garage but it was ridiculously high and simply won't happen. So I started looking into using the existing dryer outlet which is on its own 30 amp breaker. While looking in the junction box, I noticed a "panel gfi" breaker as shown below. Can anyone shine some light on what this is/does? If I go this route, the plan was to use an inline GFCI or upgrade the dryer breaker to a GFCI. Does the panel GFI already provide ground fault protection? Thanks.  |
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Post by drez on Nov 18, 2020 13:55:58 GMT -6
Do you have an outlet right next to the panel? I would assume that breaker is for that outlet. That is a 120v outlet so it is not covering the panel. If this was posted 2 months ago I would have gave you and inline GFCI you could have used for an extension cord. It ended up going to someone else with a Foundry.
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Post by drez on Nov 18, 2020 13:59:56 GMT -6
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Post by Seven on Nov 18, 2020 14:21:43 GMT -6
Do you have an outlet right next to the panel? I would assume that breaker is for that outlet. That is a 120v outlet so it is not covering the panel. If this was posted 2 months ago I would have gave you and inline GFCI you could have used for an extension cord. It ended up going to someone else with a Foundry. Yep, there's an outlet next to the panel...not sure what's plugged into it but there's definitely something. That's a pretty nice looking extension cord! I will probably make my own based on some online videos (Short Circuit Brewing on youtube). The Anvil Foundry is set up to run both 120 and 240 so I'll need to either cut the cord or rig up some kind of cord that takes 120 on one end and hooks into 240 on the other. Is there any difference between using an inline GFCI or a GFCI breaker? I still need to confirm what the dryer outlet looks like...house was built in 2008 but the dryer is probably 20 years old. Thanks for the reply. Was really hoping that having a 240 outlet installed in the garage would have been reasonable but the guy wanted well over $1k to do it. |
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Post by drez on Nov 18, 2020 17:16:44 GMT -6
1k!holy hell. How far from the panel?
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Post by Seven on Nov 18, 2020 19:39:42 GMT -6
1k!holy hell. How far from the panel? Maybe 50 feet? Quote included running wire across the basement, up into the garage then running conduit the full length of the garage. Probably overkill but I wanted to future proof and have accessible power if we ever decide to get electric vehicles. |
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Post by zymot on Nov 20, 2020 10:56:16 GMT -6
The case for a GFCI breaker in the panel is you protect the entire circuit, specifically the wiring from the box to the socket.
The idea is you could be hanging a picture in a location where there is wiring inside the wall, if the nail hit the wiring, the GFCI would provide additional protection. Something like that. With a socket alone was GFCI, along the wiring is more of a potential hazard.
I was at Home Depot. They had a good collection inline 120 VAC GFCI devices at reasonable prices. Power in to three way protection looked useful.
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Post by drez on Nov 20, 2020 11:36:20 GMT -6
A GFCI breaker looks different than the one in your panel. You have no reset on that so it still leads me to believe it is not a GFCI breaker.  |
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Post by drez on Nov 20, 2020 11:38:34 GMT -6
The case for a GFCI breaker in the panel is you protect the entire circuit, specifically the wiring from the box to the socket. The idea is you could be hanging a picture in a location where there is wiring inside the wall, if the nail hit the wiring, the GFCI would provide additional protection. Something like that. With a socket alone was GFCI, along the wiring is more of a potential hazard. I was at Home Depot. They had a good collection inline 120 VAC GFCI devices at reasonable prices. Power in to three way protection looked useful. A GFCI is for water. How is it going to help anymore than a regular breaker in the example above? |
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Post by jimdkc on Nov 20, 2020 13:39:17 GMT -6
GFCI is for any ground fault, not just water.
Circuit breaker is just for over-current. GFCI triggers on difference between current in and current out.
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Post by drez on Nov 20, 2020 14:52:12 GMT -6
GFCI is for any ground fault, not just water. Circuit breaker is just for over-current. GFCI triggers on difference between current in and current out. Yup, you are right. I was focused on the normal application near water. My bad. |
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