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Post by Ken on Aug 19, 2020 11:48:55 GMT -6
I watched this video in full and it runs over 22 minutes. For most of that time Anderson Cooper and Mike Lindell of "My Pillow" are talking over each other. Regardless of where you fall politically, it occurs to me that this type of interaction probably started with Bill O'Reilly. I remember the first time I saw him and I'm sure my mouth was hanging open because O'Reilly would interrupt, criticize, insult, etc. It was new. Now it's normal and we've all gotten numb to it. Everything is extreme now. There is no casual interaction anymore.
I pulled into the hardware store parking lot and a guy pulled in near me and on his bumper sticker there was a picture of a soldier aiming his weapon. The caption said "If you can't stand behind our troops, feel free to stand in front of them". Wow. His sticker could have said "I support our troops" but no. It has to be more provocative than that. Everyone wants to jab someone.
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Post by bklmt2000 on Aug 19, 2020 12:28:24 GMT -6
All good reasons to avoid network TV. Outside of sports (which I'm profoundly thankful to have back) and Netflix, our TV doesn't get much use.
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Post by chils on Aug 19, 2020 18:33:49 GMT -6
Exact reason I've given up on any national news. I just dont watch it. Horrible.
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Post by drez on Aug 19, 2020 19:11:59 GMT -6
What is this "news" you speak of?
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Post by Ken on Aug 19, 2020 19:40:48 GMT -6
On one hand, I *do* want to be informed and know what's going on. But I don't need a million tiny details and... for the love of man... I do not need people arguing and talking over each other on TV cheerleading for their various causes. It's clear that some of this just makes good TV and so the more friction, the better. How does someone who wants to stay informed distill all the BS on TV and get to the truth? It's getting really tedious and social media is a while nuther topic.  |
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Post by chils on Aug 20, 2020 6:08:35 GMT -6
On one hand, I *do* want to be informed and know what's going on. But I don't need a million tiny details and... for the love of man... I do not need people arguing and talking over each other on TV cheerleading for their various causes. It's clear that some of this just makes good TV and so the more friction, the better. How does someone who wants to stay informed distill all the BS on TV and get to the truth? It's getting really tedious and social media is a while nuther topic. My local news has about 2-3 minutes of national news in it. That's all I need to know. Watch the national news and write down everything that's really relevant and I bet you find <3mins of content that you needed to know--if that much. The rest is garbage designed to provoke a response. |
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Post by zymot on Aug 20, 2020 8:25:59 GMT -6
I think this is traced back to Rush Limbaugh absolutism. He was the first prominent person who went with the "My side is always right, the other side is always wrong. It is not possible to have an honest and legitimate motivation. Eveything they do is born of some evil social dominance plan, everything my side does is out of some wonderful utopia plan."
Rush Limbaugh was local to Northern California before he went national, so I know of his evolution. He used to have time for "only callers that disagree with Rush" and he would take the calls and have as reasonable honest and respectful dialog. It has been years since I have listened to more than a couple minutes at a time of Rush. Seems like his show is mostly a long monologue of Rush's one sided arguments.
What we see here is a battle of the purists that cannot take even a few seconds of dissenting opinions.
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Post by Ken on Aug 20, 2020 8:53:55 GMT -6
I think this is traced back to Rush Limbaugh absolutism. He was the first prominent person who went with the "My side is always right, the other side is always wrong. It is not possible to have an honest and legitimate motivation. Eveything they do is born of some evil social dominance plan, everything my side does is out of some wonderful utopia plan." Rush Limbaugh was local to Northern California before he went national, so I know of his evolution. He used to have time for "only callers that disagree with Rush" and he would take the calls and have as reasonable honest and respectful dialog. It has been years since I have listened to more than a couple minutes at a time of Rush. Seems like his show is mostly a long monologue of Rush's one sided arguments. What we see here is a battle of the purists that cannot take even a few seconds of dissenting opinions. Right. Respectful dialog is boring. Friction is exciting and it sells and it makes people talk about it which brings it back full-circle with more viewers, etc. Real life is not like that and that's a good lesson... TV is TV. |
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Post by Ken on Aug 31, 2020 16:48:53 GMT -6
Last week while I was traveling I got up each morning at 6am, went down to the lobby of the hotel for coffee and then came back upstairs and turned on CNN to see what was up. I think I missed the Jacob Blake thing when it happened so I had to play catch-up. I have no dog in this race. I do not automatically side with police every time or a victim. On CNN they mentioned what the police did (shot Blake in the back 7 times and also cuffed him to his hospital bed) and then there were the typical conversations with family members, politicians, the lawyers, etc. but by that time it was hard to know what happened. The media is ridiculous in cases like this because they often skip over or edit things which makes it really hard to understand exactly what happened. Throw in some sort of bias (on any side) and all bets are off. Where does someone go to get the full, unvarnished story?!
EDIT: Mmm, there's a site called ALLSIDES.com and they'll give you the left, center and right story. I selected CENTER and got an article by Reuters. Thanks, Reuters.
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