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Post by Ken on Jul 11, 2020 10:00:45 GMT -6
We had our typical run of hot, sunny days in the 90s and no rain so the lawn weakened and allowed some weeds to take over. I have a lot of this stuff. I bought some Scotts liquid weed stuff that you connect to the hose and I sprayed it yesterday. It says the weeds will begin to "curl up in a few days". I googled the list of weeds on the label and none appear to be this stuff so I think I might be able to hear the weeds laughing at me now. My dad would call this stuff "barnyard grass" but I'm sure it has a better name. Cheers.
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Post by Ken on Jul 11, 2020 10:03:23 GMT -6
Mmm. Appears that "barnyard grass" is a thing. CLICK. It does not say how to get rid of it other than "pulling it out". I have so much of this stuff I would have to quit my job to remove it by hand.
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Post by bklmt2000 on Jul 11, 2020 10:08:18 GMT -6
Had the same thing in my yard up through last year; got a weed puller and yanked every bit out by hand. Tried using pro-grade stuff for crabgrass on it to kill it off in prior years; no go. Also put down a good pre-emergent this spring, which helped a lot. This stuff seems to behave like crabgrass, in that it's easier to prevent than treat/kill. Pre-emergents will help ensure it never sprouts, but if it does, you'll need to manually remove it. This is the weed puller I use; works like a champ: smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0030MIHAU/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Post by Ken on Jul 11, 2020 10:17:51 GMT -6
I just read a little bit about this stuff. There is a product called Martin's Eraser that "might" kill it but it's not a selective product which means it could harm the grass too. So that defeats the purpose. It contains something called Glyphosate. My Scott's product I used yesterday does not contain that ingredient. That same site I read also said that it can be pulled by hand but I have too much of this stuff and it also said pulling it is a waste of time because it will probably come back if it's already gone to seed. This stuff grows much faster than grass so you cut the lawn and the next day this stuff is already standing up over the top of the grass by an inch. Let the grass go for 4-5 days and this stuff is 6" higher than the grass. I swore I would drop some preemergent down this spring but I did not. Never again. Scotts with Halts every spring without fail going forward. It will not survive the first frost so I guess I just have to live with it until the cold weather starts.
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Post by bklmt2000 on Jul 11, 2020 10:23:46 GMT -6
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Post by Ken on Jul 11, 2020 10:31:35 GMT -6
I'll look for it. I like Scott's products but no matter what I'm going to do that. I told myself I was ABSOLUTELY doing that this spring and I don't know why I didn't do it. Bad me. Thanks for the link. I realize this is a first-world problem but it still peeves me.
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Post by shaggaroo on Jul 11, 2020 10:31:51 GMT -6
Unless you want to kill your grass DO NOT use anything with glyphosate. Doesn't take much to spread. So even if you spot-sprayed you'll kill good grass around it. And your luck it wouldn't kill the barnyard grass but everything else around it!
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Post by Ken on Jul 11, 2020 11:31:35 GMT -6
Unless you want to kill your grass DO NOT use anything with glyphosate. Doesn't take much to spread. So even if you spot-sprayed you'll kill good grass around it. And your luck it wouldn't kill the barnyard grass but everything else around it! Yeah, that sounds right. One thing I read said that you should "brush" the glyphosate onto the leaves of the weeds. My neighbors could probably hear me laugh about that one. Seriously? Here, let me sit down on the grass with my cup of glyphosate and my paint brush and carefully paint each leaf. No. It's annoying but it's not THAT annoying. I'll cut it and I'll ignore it and I'll just deal with it until it's taken out by cold.
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Post by Ken on Jul 11, 2020 11:44:34 GMT -6
It's pretty clear evidence that healthy grass can squelch out weeds. In the spots of my yard that are shaded and the grass is green and healthy-looking, this stuff is not there. In the more exposed and sunny areas, the grass has weakened, turned slightly yellow and this stuff is running rampant.
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Post by Ken on Jul 12, 2020 11:02:46 GMT -6
I think I had a weird dream about this last night. It was like a 1950s black and white horror movie where the words twirl up on the screen like DANGEROUS DANDELIONS! BADASS BIRCHES! WORRISOME WEEDS! HOSTILE HOSTAS! There were long, drawn-out scenes of people putting their hands to their face screaming. Of course I wasn't in the movie because I'm not an actor. The most logical person to portray me was Brad Pitt. I think that much is universally accepted. The best part was the end... I brewed a beer with a super low pH and then drank a bunch of it and went outside to pee on all the barnyard grass. It curled up and died in minutes!
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Post by jimdkc on Jul 12, 2020 15:42:47 GMT -6
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Post by jimdkc on Jul 12, 2020 15:55:10 GMT -6
I've had the barnyard grass problem, too. About 10 years ago, the city tore up street and sidewalks and replaced all the overhead utilities with buried lines, removed all the old wooden telephone poles and streetlights, and installed new aluminum streetlight poles. It made the street look a lot better... but...
When they did this, they resodded the grass areas they had torn up, mostly the area between the sidewalk and the street, but also parts of the main lawn. The sod they used looked good at first, but was apparently full of barnyard grass seed. It took several years to eradicate this stuff. I used glyphosate (that's Round-Up, in case you didn't know! This was before the cancer lawsuits.) to kill most of it. Eventually our lawn got healthy enough to choke out the rest.
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Post by Ken on Jul 12, 2020 16:17:07 GMT -6
I've had some creeping Charlie but it's one here, one there and easy to pull out. I know I'm getting older because yesterday I was all WHAT THE FECK about this barnyard grass and today I'm all WHATEVER. The bad news is that there is no real product to to use to try to kill it. The good news is that it won't survive the first frost so I guaran-dam-tee you that on the first frost I will be out there where the largest blob of this stuff is located and I will be repeating "Suck it. Suck it. Suck it." over and over and over.
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Post by Ken on Jul 13, 2020 14:18:39 GMT -6
With a bit more homework I believe this stuff is actually called "signalgrass". The stuff in the lawn gets cut so it never gets tall but I have some growing around my pool equipment too and it's taller and has this sort of 'antenna-like' top on it. It appears to be the exact same stuff. Luckily, Ortho Crabgrass Control says it kills signalgrass and also barnyard grass so I just went and got some of it and hit some inconspicuous spots along the fence bordering the Klopeks yard. We'll see how it looks in a couple days. Here's my version. Looks the same.
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Post by Seven on Jul 14, 2020 7:12:11 GMT -6
I'm a bit late here but like Shagaroo said, don't use glyphosate since it's a non-selective herbicide, i.e. Roundup. Pulling is probably the best option but there are some specialty herbicides that will take of it. They are generally pretty expensive relative to weed-b-gone and you have to be a bit more careful in applying them. I'm currently "experimenting" with one named Tenacity and it's been working pretty well on some stubborn weeds. It's also doing a number on my crabgrass...did I light spot spray last Thursday and the crabgrass is already bleached white (Tenacity prevents photosynthesis).
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